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		<title>By: Embracing Creative Tension in Philanthropy &#124; Tactical Philanthropy</title>
		<link>http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/blog/2010/07/report-watch-rejecting-false-dichotomies/comment-page-1/#comment-15348</link>
		<dc:creator>Embracing Creative Tension in Philanthropy &#124; Tactical Philanthropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] revels in the paradoxical nature of social change and refuses to settle for what Michael Edwards evocatively called the “soggy middle ground”.  SHARE THIS POST &#160;&#160;   Share Tweet    &#8592; Previous [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jara Dean-Coffey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jara Dean-Coffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read through the thread to date, I kept coming back to the notion that our comfort or rather discomfort with complexity reinforces false dichotomies as well as a whole host of tendencies and practices that get in our way of sustainable change. Then I am reminded of the stage/age of this work and our of culture and it makes sense although it is still frustrating. 

The following quote summed it up nicely for me:


Maturity is achieved when a person accepts life as full of tension. Joshua L. Liebman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read through the thread to date, I kept coming back to the notion that our comfort or rather discomfort with complexity reinforces false dichotomies as well as a whole host of tendencies and practices that get in our way of sustainable change. Then I am reminded of the stage/age of this work and our of culture and it makes sense although it is still frustrating. </p>
<p>The following quote summed it up nicely for me:</p>
<p>Maturity is achieved when a person accepts life as full of tension. Joshua L. Liebman</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/blog/2010/07/report-watch-rejecting-false-dichotomies/comment-page-1/#comment-5957</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree then. As you say, &quot;it all depends......&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree then. As you say, &#8220;it all depends&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/blog/2010/07/report-watch-rejecting-false-dichotomies/comment-page-1/#comment-5955</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you -- and I just don&#039;t buy it. It is usually passion (and emotion/frustration) that motivates people to get more strategic and assessment focused. We know from our research that it&#039;s the most strategic foundation leaders who listen most to grantees and those they seek to help. And yet people assume there is a trade-off there.  On the contrary:  I think some of the things that are seen to be in tension actually cannot survive without each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you &#8212; and I just don&#8217;t buy it. It is usually passion (and emotion/frustration) that motivates people to get more strategic and assessment focused. We know from our research that it&#8217;s the most strategic foundation leaders who listen most to grantees and those they seek to help. And yet people assume there is a trade-off there.  On the contrary:  I think some of the things that are seen to be in tension actually cannot survive without each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Phil, of course those things &quot;can&quot; be married together with trade-offs that many would classify as acceptable, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the point. In the real world the key question is &quot;do they?&quot;, and that question opens up a whole field of interesting - and differing - answers. There are no important questions that don&#039;t involve trade-offs in time, resources, goals, priorities, methods, values, interpretations and so on, so that&#039;s where trhe locus of the conversation needs to be. Sorry to labour the point, but so often it gets lost or ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Phil, of course those things &#8220;can&#8221; be married together with trade-offs that many would classify as acceptable, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the point. In the real world the key question is &#8220;do they?&#8221;, and that question opens up a whole field of interesting &#8211; and differing &#8211; answers. There are no important questions that don&#8217;t involve trade-offs in time, resources, goals, priorities, methods, values, interpretations and so on, so that&#8217;s where trhe locus of the conversation needs to be. Sorry to labour the point, but so often it gets lost or ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/blog/2010/07/report-watch-rejecting-false-dichotomies/comment-page-1/#comment-5947</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Michael.  I said I agreed that &quot;it depends&quot; is the right answer to most questions professionals face -- not all questions. 

My point is simply that, too frequently, things get posited as mutually exclusive when that is not necessarily so. For example, a common idea is that a focus on effectiveness --on clear goals, well-implemented strategies, and relevant performance indicators -- is in conflict with other things we value: passion, humility, empathy, listening to and involving those on the ground, and the list goes on.  My view is that, on the contrary, these things can -- and often do -- go hand in hand. Our publications and case studies (not to mention history) are replete with examples of this. Obviously, Michael, as I think you know, I do not believe all convictions should be lightly held, nor, I am sure, do the authors of the Monitor Institute report! I think the context for that quote, if you read my original post, is clear -- and unrelated to the kind of example you give above.  Thanks for weighing in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Michael.  I said I agreed that &#8220;it depends&#8221; is the right answer to most questions professionals face &#8212; not all questions. </p>
<p>My point is simply that, too frequently, things get posited as mutually exclusive when that is not necessarily so. For example, a common idea is that a focus on effectiveness &#8211;on clear goals, well-implemented strategies, and relevant performance indicators &#8212; is in conflict with other things we value: passion, humility, empathy, listening to and involving those on the ground, and the list goes on.  My view is that, on the contrary, these things can &#8212; and often do &#8212; go hand in hand. Our publications and case studies (not to mention history) are replete with examples of this. Obviously, Michael, as I think you know, I do not believe all convictions should be lightly held, nor, I am sure, do the authors of the Monitor Institute report! I think the context for that quote, if you read my original post, is clear &#8212; and unrelated to the kind of example you give above.  Thanks for weighing in.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/blog/2010/07/report-watch-rejecting-false-dichotomies/comment-page-1/#comment-5938</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, yes and no Phil! If the correct approach is that &quot;it all depends&quot; we would have to apply it to your last para too. Why would it universally true or good that &quot;convictions that were once trumpeted confidently are now more lightly held&quot;? Which convictions would those be and in what situations should they be preserved rather than discounted? I think that&#039;s the core of the conversation we need to have.For example, what about the conviction that citizens of a dremocracy should be meaningfully involved in all debates and decsions that affect them, including decisions about philanthropy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, yes and no Phil! If the correct approach is that &#8220;it all depends&#8221; we would have to apply it to your last para too. Why would it universally true or good that &#8220;convictions that were once trumpeted confidently are now more lightly held&#8221;? Which convictions would those be and in what situations should they be preserved rather than discounted? I think that&#8217;s the core of the conversation we need to have.For example, what about the conviction that citizens of a dremocracy should be meaningfully involved in all debates and decsions that affect them, including decisions about philanthropy?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/blog/2010/07/report-watch-rejecting-false-dichotomies/comment-page-1/#comment-5935</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you, Sean.  At the (significant) risk of sounding like I am just doing exactly the kind of &quot;both and&quot; that you are concerned about, I do think both phenomena occur.  

Sometimes, we act as if there aren&#039;t tensions when there are.  Sometimes, we act as if there are tensions where there are not.

I think the former tends to happen when we are together – when we feel a kind of social pressure is to agree.  I agree with Michael, of course, that debate is healthy and frankly have been frustrated that our attempts to spark it at our conferences haven’t always worked because people seem to want to find common ground when there isn’t much.   

I think the latter happens more often in writing (or on cable news), when people are proposing some “new way” and trying to drive attention to their ideas – and so feel a need to explain that the “new way” is far better than the old, “broken,” way.  Sometimes that’s true; often, it’s more complicated than that.

This is, in part, what my colleague Ellie Buteau and I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/index.php?page=should-grant-makers-embrace-experts-advice-it-depends&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote about&lt;/a&gt; recently in the Chronicle, which you then  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tacticalphilanthropy.com/2010/04/fill-in-the-blank-philanthropy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged  about&lt;/a&gt;, Sean and a number of folks then commented on in a good, healthy, debate.  We wrote, “It seems that purveyors of new philanthropic formulas for making a difference are everywhere. Offering anecdotes and snazzy adjectives modifying the word ‘philanthropy,’ they extrapolate from a success story or two, promising that their approach—fill-in-the-blank philanthropy—will allow foundations and philanthropists to finally show progress in solving our toughest societal challenges.”  We quoted Michael Mauboussin, author of Think Twice: Harnessing the Power of Counterintuition, who argues that “the right answer to most questions that professionals face is, &#039;It depends.’” 

I guess what I am saying is, let’s recognize that in life, and especially in this work, things are often more complicated than they seem.  So that’s why I hope our colleagues at Monitor Institute are correct when they write: “Convictions that were once trumpeted confidently are now more lightly held. That’s good, and speaks well of a growing sophistication and maturity that can shape the years ahead.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, Sean.  At the (significant) risk of sounding like I am just doing exactly the kind of &#8220;both and&#8221; that you are concerned about, I do think both phenomena occur.  </p>
<p>Sometimes, we act as if there aren&#8217;t tensions when there are.  Sometimes, we act as if there are tensions where there are not.</p>
<p>I think the former tends to happen when we are together – when we feel a kind of social pressure is to agree.  I agree with Michael, of course, that debate is healthy and frankly have been frustrated that our attempts to spark it at our conferences haven’t always worked because people seem to want to find common ground when there isn’t much.   </p>
<p>I think the latter happens more often in writing (or on cable news), when people are proposing some “new way” and trying to drive attention to their ideas – and so feel a need to explain that the “new way” is far better than the old, “broken,” way.  Sometimes that’s true; often, it’s more complicated than that.</p>
<p>This is, in part, what my colleague Ellie Buteau and I <a href="http://www.effectivephilanthropy.org/index.php?page=should-grant-makers-embrace-experts-advice-it-depends" rel="nofollow">wrote about</a> recently in the Chronicle, which you then  <a href="http://www.tacticalphilanthropy.com/2010/04/fill-in-the-blank-philanthropy" rel="nofollow">blogged  about</a>, Sean and a number of folks then commented on in a good, healthy, debate.  We wrote, “It seems that purveyors of new philanthropic formulas for making a difference are everywhere. Offering anecdotes and snazzy adjectives modifying the word ‘philanthropy,’ they extrapolate from a success story or two, promising that their approach—fill-in-the-blank philanthropy—will allow foundations and philanthropists to finally show progress in solving our toughest societal challenges.”  We quoted Michael Mauboussin, author of Think Twice: Harnessing the Power of Counterintuition, who argues that “the right answer to most questions that professionals face is, &#8216;It depends.’” </p>
<p>I guess what I am saying is, let’s recognize that in life, and especially in this work, things are often more complicated than they seem.  So that’s why I hope our colleagues at Monitor Institute are correct when they write: “Convictions that were once trumpeted confidently are now more lightly held. That’s good, and speaks well of a growing sophistication and maturity that can shape the years ahead.”</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear! And the more tension the better since that&#039;s when the conversation gets interesting and real consensus is created, not through the soggy middle ground that so often typifies phulanthropy. The Monitor report is a good case in point, highlighing &quot;innovations&quot; only within a narrow frame and ignoring others, dismissing counter-narratives and pretending that debates are outmoded or simply &quot;silly.&quot; In fact huge chasms are opening up inside philanthropy between very different perspectives. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a bad thing so long as the different positions are talking to each-other, and therein lies the problem. Why doesn&#039;t CEP host some conversations like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear! And the more tension the better since that&#8217;s when the conversation gets interesting and real consensus is created, not through the soggy middle ground that so often typifies phulanthropy. The Monitor report is a good case in point, highlighing &#8220;innovations&#8221; only within a narrow frame and ignoring others, dismissing counter-narratives and pretending that debates are outmoded or simply &#8220;silly.&#8221; In fact huge chasms are opening up inside philanthropy between very different perspectives. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a bad thing so long as the different positions are talking to each-other, and therein lies the problem. Why doesn&#8217;t CEP host some conversations like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Stannard-Stockton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Stannard-Stockton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, while I agree with you and have highlighted the &quot;creative tension&quot; concepts in the Monitor report myself, I also worry that philanthropy has a tendency to obfuscate important trade offs between different approaches.

Too often, funders hold what may be mutually exclusive, or at least conflicting beliefs (we should provide extensive non-monetary support to our grantees AND we should empower grantees to make their own decisions! We should stay true to our own internally designed strategic solutions to social problems AND we should be members of Grantmakers for Effective Organizations and celebrate the idea of general operating support!)

A &quot;dichotomy&quot; is when you split a single item into two non-overlapping elements. In the real world, life is messy and there is often much overlap within ideas and beliefs. So I agree that we should reject false-dichotomies. Yet, the Monitor report talks about &quot;creative tension&quot;, the idea that there is real, meaningful tension between different approaches. So I think it is just as important for us to reject attempts to ignore the tensions in philanthropy.

Reject dichotomies and embrace the tension of living in the messy real world?

I so rarely feel any &quot;tension&quot; in the room when I attend philanthropic gatherings. My own attempts to create &quot;debate&quot; in philanthropy is often met with criticism from people who feel that I&#039;m creating unneeded tension and that in fact &quot;the two sides have much in common&quot;. Well, of course they do. But they have real differences as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, while I agree with you and have highlighted the &#8220;creative tension&#8221; concepts in the Monitor report myself, I also worry that philanthropy has a tendency to obfuscate important trade offs between different approaches.</p>
<p>Too often, funders hold what may be mutually exclusive, or at least conflicting beliefs (we should provide extensive non-monetary support to our grantees AND we should empower grantees to make their own decisions! We should stay true to our own internally designed strategic solutions to social problems AND we should be members of Grantmakers for Effective Organizations and celebrate the idea of general operating support!)</p>
<p>A &#8220;dichotomy&#8221; is when you split a single item into two non-overlapping elements. In the real world, life is messy and there is often much overlap within ideas and beliefs. So I agree that we should reject false-dichotomies. Yet, the Monitor report talks about &#8220;creative tension&#8221;, the idea that there is real, meaningful tension between different approaches. So I think it is just as important for us to reject attempts to ignore the tensions in philanthropy.</p>
<p>Reject dichotomies and embrace the tension of living in the messy real world?</p>
<p>I so rarely feel any &#8220;tension&#8221; in the room when I attend philanthropic gatherings. My own attempts to create &#8220;debate&#8221; in philanthropy is often met with criticism from people who feel that I&#8217;m creating unneeded tension and that in fact &#8220;the two sides have much in common&#8221;. Well, of course they do. But they have real differences as well.</p>
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